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they call me heartbreaker, i don't want to deceive ya 
13 5 10
punk!shuuhei
Soooo, the FINAL CHAPTER of Cantarella, which is one of my FAVOURITE SERIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD has come out. So this is my question to the world: WHY IS NOBODY SCANLATING THIS SERIES? Seriously. I can't find it anywhere. It's not as if it isn't popular either! It's not Bleach or anything, but I know people like it and this is the big finish. The big finish to ten volumes of angst and drama and pretty men with swords, after a long period of hiatus. I can't decide whether it would be worse to dl the RAWs and not understand them, or just wait until it's either released in English (if it's released in English) or somebody finally decides they want to scanlate the bloody thing. *sighs* It's not as if I don't know what's going to happen, it is a historical series afterall, but I'm so attached to the characters, I just want to know what is being said!

I...I don't know how it happened, but the Taoi Cruz song 'Heartbreaker' somehow got associated with Byakuya. I have no idea why. Possibly because I've been toying with writing something with Byakuya more as the sexual agressor than my usual modus operandi, which tends to be him as the more reluctant or submissive partner. Idk.

I'm currently cranky because I have a lot of fic ideas, but I can't seem to actually write them. I sit down to do so and I just can't find the words. Maybe because I've been a bit stressed out about RL, which always crushes my writing mojo. However, following hearing the song 'My First Kiss' by 3oh!3 feat. Ke$ha on the radio, I have this urge to write a fic with the WIP title 'My first kiss went a little like this...' So, as a discussion topic for my Bleach-loving friends...any ideas for who various characters kissed first?



Does anyone else have issues writing smut? I just find that while I'm willing to imply almost anything, I have real difficulties actually writing very graphic sex scenes, and I was wondering whether anybody else has/has had a similar problem. It's not that I object to graphic smut, I read plenty of graphic smut, I just have issues writing it. I don't know whether it's because I'm uncomfortable with how much of a dirty mind I have or what. :p Just curious as to whether any other fic writers feel the same way. Possibly you do not. Probably this is just me being a nutcase.

For example, I have this KenShuu fic idea I've been playing with, but it's quite dirty/kinky, and I just can't seem to write out the sex scenes. I know what happens exactly, but I just can't get it down. I don't know if it's because I'm uncomfortable with how much porn my mind can generate (the remnants of 12 years of religious education, mayhap? :p), or something like that.

So basically, just wanted to get other opinions on the writing of smut. You can tell me I'm crazy/paranoid/weird. You probably wouldn't be wrong. :p
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12 5 10 (UTC)
I have issues with smut.

I hope that for those who read my writing, that's not incredibly obvious. But I have to work *hard* to get it to a level I'm comfortable with - by which I mean, a level that I consider decent, not necessarily my own personal comfort level. The only couple I've ever had smut come easily with, curiously, has been KaienShuu (I'm working on a Candy 'Verse fic right now and lord, I have most of the sex stuff down already, plot notwithstanding).

I have to make sure that in my effort to ease smut-writing for myself I don't rely too much on euphemism. Like you, I'm willing to imply a lot, but I fear I depend on the reader's imagination too much and I seek to remedy that. Maybe that's why I like writing characters like Byakuya so much; in my mind,the...often indirect and circumscribed way he approaches lovemaking, even his inner thoughts, jives with how I like to write that sort of thing.

But a lot of times after I write my smut scenes I go through and giggle when I realize how full of *allusions*, they are, more telling than showing, and I have to remedy those things even when it makes me blush and I feel like it might be too direct. But it's usually not. I overestimate that a lot, I think - "oh, my god, this is incredibly porny" when it's really "eh, this isn't too porny."

In other words: you are not alone.

/ramble
13 5 10 (UTC)
Phew, I am so glad I am not alone. It's very reassuring.

It certainly isn't obvious when I read your writing; you write smut so damn well, I am constantly astonished. You always seem to find the perfect balance between being graphic and leaving enough to the imagination. (I am very excited about that, let me just say, I cannot wait.)

I think I probably rely too much on euphemisms. Depsite the fact I've written a fair bit of NC-27, I avoid using graphic/anatomical language like the plague. :p It took me about two years to actually get to the point of using 'cock' in a fic. Hmm, yes, I understand that. I do find writing more circumspect characters easier, probably because then the my own reticence fits better with the actual character, like you say.

Yeah, I suspect I panic over nothing, I just get paranoid about it. I think there might be a generous dollop of 'OMG I'm an 18 year old girl and I'm writing graphic man on man smut, I am obviously disturbed' in my reaction, which I'm trying to get beyond. At least it gives me something to work on in my writing.

I appreciate the rambling. It's nice to think I am not alone.
13 5 10 (UTC)
OMG!
"Heartbreaker" is totally an Akon (the character, lol) song for me. I've been on a kick with him of late (paired with LISA of all people) and making a mental FST and that song is totally on it.

Smut?
Dude. Duuuuude.
I can't write sex. I can't.

I write foreplay. I write implication or candy coated sexiness, but actual sex? I think I've written one fic. Ever. And it was a continuation that couldn't have the sexings glossed over. It plays out like a vivid little tease in my brain, but on the page? It's like... I just get stuck.

So you? Totally not weird.
14 5 10 (UTC)
XD
I was reading blood_crow's fic again, and it was making me want more Akon. Possibly because I have this bad, wrong, inappropriate and unhealthy thing for guys who smoke, because I really like the smell of cigarettes.

Oh you so can! I have read you write sex, and it was good. :p But I know the stuck feeling. I have it in technicolour in my head, I know exactly how it all plays out, but as soon as I try to write it, it gets stuck somewhere between my brain and the keyboard.

Usually it's not an issue, because I wort of skirt around it and write random, wordy introspective pieces so I don't have to write actual porn, but I have this ridiculously porny KenShuu idea which now will not put itself on the paper.

Possibly because somewhere in my subconscious, something has realised that the world does not need PWP featuring Kensei cajoling Shuu into his old Academy uniform after finding out he used to fantasise about them together when he was younger, and the shenanigans that then ensue.

*is shot*

Thankyou, I am feeling less of a spaz after hearing other people have similar issues. ♥
13 5 10 (UTC)
Haha, don't sweat the smut writing! ;) As one of those people that write NC917 (heh) it's just a personal preference.

For example: I can write total boy on boy smut till the cows come home in explicate detail. You ask me to write het smut, it just isn't happening. I get embarrassed LOL I examined myself over this the other month, why can't I write het smut? The answer: it's too close to home ;) Writing slash is all in my head and imagination, whereas het smut would be more 'real' ;)

Anyway, I got on a tangent there. I know some awesome writers (yourself included) who don't write in great detail with teh cock. I know awesome writers who do. It doesn't matter. Your stuff is hot enough without needing the details! I personally, am not able to write where by I 'hint' stuff. I also cannot write fluff, which is why you get paint by numbers from me ;)

It's all a matter of preference. It doesn't mean you are any less better than those that lay it all out there, it just means you have a different style of writing and comfort level. Doesn't make it a less 'good' fic ;)

Wow. That was long winded! ♥
14 5 10 (UTC)
Tehe, and you write it so well. ;)

Yeah, I feel exactly the same about het smut. And to an extent about yuri as well, I guess. Yaoi has that safe distance.

Aw, thankyou. My frustration at the moment comes from the fact that I have a couple of fics in the work that require more detail regarding teh cock, because they're predominantly PWP, so it's annoying when I can't actually seem to write anything decently graphic. We shall see how it goes. I think part of it stems from the fact it irks me when I feel like a flailing teenage girl. There's this voice in my head yelling 'IT'S JUST SEX, GET A GRIP AND WRITE THE DAMN SCENE.':p

Not at all, that was great. Very reassuring. ♥
13 5 10 (UTC)
I don't write smut. I'm always worried it won't turn out as nice in text as it is in my head, so I waffle with it until I just don't do it. But I can imply like a madwoman.
15 5 10 (UTC)
Implication is awesome, half the time I find implication sexier than actual porn. Doesn't stop me from wanting to be able to write porn, just because it pisses me off that I can't do it, even if I don't usually want to. :p

Yeah, I'm difficult like that. :p
13 5 10 (UTC)
Ah Cantarella. I haven't read it in aaages, precisely because no one is scanlating it and I pretty much refuse to read things I won't understand. So someone should scanlate it, so I can read it, reject it and replace it with my own happier reality :P.

As for the fic stuff, I don't feel I am qualifed to comment on it.
15 5 10 (UTC)
LOL, yeah, I intend to do that too. In fact, I writing a version in my head with no Lucrezia. Because she's STUPID.

You are totally qualifies, as we established the other night. Remeber that Ludwig smut I was writing on msn when I was trying to make myself use the word 'cock'? You may not remember, it was a while ago.

Is Lady not puuuurrty in this dp?
15 5 10 (UTC)
lol, yes, good plan. Good plan. She is indeed rather stupid.

Heh. I do remember that, because I was like 'Do eeeeeeet' and trying to coax you along. Like good semes should.:P

Lady is super pretty. As always. *envy* It's a nice icon too. xD I will have to use my Lady icon now.
13 5 10 (UTC)
Oh oh!! I want to play the kissing game! Only I'm a little confused about the directions D:

I kind of have issues writing smut... I don't know, I feel like I must have had troubles writing it, but now that I'm here talking about it, I can't think of any particular fic that I had trouble with it. I know that I have trouble writing het smut, haha, simply because I get really graphic with it and it kind of embarrasses me =X

Writing graphic yaoi? That doesn't embarrass me as much, but sometimes I will write a sentence and then blush at myself for the plain crudeness of it *glares at Grimmjow*
13 5 10 (UTC)
LOL, well, there are very few directions. More just a 'so, anyone have any theories for the circumstances under which each character got their first kiss.' I, for example, think Rukia and Renji kissed each other back when they were much, much younger, in a cute, awkward kind of way. But I'm curious as to who everyone thinks was, for example, Shuu's first kiss.

...I probably should stop listening to bad pop music and coming up with fic premises based upon it. :p

Tehe, that Grimmjow has a mouth on him. I don't really write het smut, but to the extent I do I have a similar problem. Though in the case of het, it's more that it's too close to home and I get embarassed writing it. Whereas with yaoi it's different...oh, Lord knows what goes on in my brain. :p
13 5 10 (UTC)
haha, I hardly ever write smut, but that's mostly because I'm so terrible at it. Everything sounds stupid or awkward, and it's nowhere near as sexy as other people make it sound, and I swear it's the same boring thing every single time. No matter how clearly I imagine it in my head, in text it's just ridiculous. So I normally stick to reading smut instead of writing it. xD hell sometimes when I read porn I can't believe people actually wrote/kept certain sentences because jesus christ they sound so silly. and that's even in good porn.
14 5 10 (UTC)
Yeah, I find a lot of the language can just make me snort with laughter. It's so hard to make it sound sexy/realistic and not absolutely ridiculous.

LOL, yes, me too. It's a good system. xD

I know exactly what you mean.
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